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About The Book
Two former best friends return to their college reunion to find that they’re being circled by someone who wants revenge for what they did ten years before—and will stop at nothing to get it—in this “propulsive” (Megan Miranda, bestselling author of The Girl from Widow Hills) psychological thriller.
A lot has changed in years since Ambrosia Wellington graduated from college, and she’s worked hard to create a new life for herself. But then an invitation to her ten-year reunion arrives in the mail, along with an anonymous note that reads, “We need to talk about what we did that night.”
It seems that the secrets of Ambrosia’s past—and the people she thought she’d left there—aren’t as buried as she believed. Amb can’t stop fixating on what she did or who she did it with: larger-than-life Sloane “Sully” Sullivan, Amb’s former best friend, who could make anyone do anything.
At the reunion, Amb and Sully receive increasingly menacing messages, and it becomes clear that they’re being pursued by someone who wants more than just the truth of what happened that first semester. This person wants revenge for what they did and the damage they caused—the extent of which Amb is only now fully understanding. And it was all because of the game they played to get a boy who belonged to someone else and the girl who paid the price.
Alternating between the reunion and Amb’s freshman year, The Girls Are All So Nice Here is a “chilling and twisty thriller” (Book Riot) about the brutal lengths girls can go to get what they think they’re owed, and what happens when the games we play in college become matters of life and death.
Excerpt
NOW
To: “Ambrosia Wellington” a.wellington@wesleyan.edu
From: “Wesleyan Alumni Committee” reunion.classof2007@gmail.com
Subject: Class of 2007 Reunion
Dear Ambrosia Wellington,
Mark Your Calendar!
The Wesleyan University Ten-Year Reunion for the Class of 2007 will take place May 25–28, 2017. Join us for a weekend of catching up with former classmates and attending exciting events, including the All-Campus Party and formal class dinners.
Online registration is available through May 1.
If you’re planning to attend, a full list of area hotels can be found on Wesleyan’s local accommodations page. A limited amount of on-campus housing in our dorms is available. Most rooms are doubles—perfect for reaching out to your old roommate to relive some memories!
Sincerely,
Your Alumni Committee
I delete it instantly, just like I do the sale emails from Sephora and Michael Kors and the reminders from Fertility Friend that ovulation is right around the corner. Then I empty my recycling bin, because I know better than to think anything is ever really gone.
Two weeks later, a second email arrives. We haven’t received your RSVP! We really hope you’re joining us. It’s the written equivalent of a wagging finger. I delete that one, too, but not before scrolling down far enough to see her name, bolded, right under the list of Alumni Committee members. Flora Banning.
I forget about the two emails, because out of sight really is out of mind. It’s easy when each day is a variation of the same—taking the N from Astoria to Midtown; stopping at Key Food for groceries, reusable cloth bags cutting into my forearms. Happy hour shouldered in with hipsters at the Ditty, a second glass of wine, despite Adrian’s half-teasing Maybe you shouldn’t. But then I come home from work on Friday, shoulders sagging from the weight of the week, and there’s an envelope on the counter addressed to me.
“Hey, babe,” Adrian shouts from his position on the couch, tablet in hand, where he’s undoubtedly working on his fantasy football league instead of the perpetually unfinished novel he likes to talk about. “How was your day?”
“You left the door open again. Can you please start locking it like I asked?” One of the myriad things I nag Adrian about on a regular basis. Lock the door. Close the cereal bag. Pick up your dirty laundry. Sometimes I feel more like a parent than his wife.
“Relax. It’s a safe building. Hey, something came for you. I think we got invited to a wedding. Except somebody doesn’t know you got married and changed your name.” My new last name, a point of male pride that Adrian pretended wasn’t important to him. I don’t care, but do you really want the kids to have two last names? And yours is so long, he said during wedding planning, the first puncture in my newly engaged bliss. The kids, a brightening certainty on his horizon, my concessions for them expected and inevitable.
The envelope on the counter is addressed to Ambrosia Wellington, in neat calligraphy. Not Ambrosia Turner, the woman I became three years ago when I walked down a tree-shaded aisle at the Mountain Lakes House toward Adrian, his eyes already tear filled. I let him think Turner was for us, for the kids. He has no idea why I was so eager to get rid of Wellington.
Adrian turns around to watch me open it, expectant. He loves weddings, or rather, he loves the receptions, where he can get drunk and pose for pictures with people he’s just met, instant best friends, and invite them to dinners and barbecues we all know will never happen.
“Well, who is it?” he says. “Let me guess. Bethany from work. Is she still dating that really tall guy? Mark. The lacrosse player.”
Adrian and his friends, five and six years younger than me, still post engagement photos on Facebook and Instagram: girls with long hair and Chanel espadrilles, gel manicures to show off pear-shaped rocks, posing next to boys in plaid shirts. The PR girls who work under me at Brighton Dame are the same.
So basic, we used to call them, back when there was no way we would turn into them.
“Bethany’s twenty-two,” I murmur when I pull the card out. I ignore Adrian’s response, because I’m fixated on what’s inside. It’s not a wedding invitation. Nobody is requesting my presence at Gramercy Park or telling me the dress code is black tie or mandating an adults-only reception.
It’s more calligraphy, red and black against cream card stock. Wesleyan colors. The letters tilt slightly to the right, as if whoever wrote them was in a rush to get them out.
You need to come. We need to talk about what we did that night.
There’s no signature, but there doesn’t need to be. It can only be from one person. My face is hot and I can tell my neck is marbling red and white, the same way it always does when my anxiety flares up. I grip the countertop. She knows I deleted the emails. I shouldn’t be surprised; she had a way of knowing everything.
Adrian’s voice interrupts my spiraling thoughts. “The suspense is killing me. It better be an open bar.”
“It’s not a wedding.” I stuff the card back into its envelope, then shove it in my purse. Later, I’ll put it in the place I hide everything Adrian can never see.
He puts down his tablet and stands up. Of course he chooses now to grow an attention span. “You okay? You look like you’re going to puke.”
I could shred the card, but I know what would happen. Another one will come in its place. She was insistent then. She’s probably even more so now.
“It’s nothing. Why don’t we go up to the roof and have a drink?” The rooftop patio with its slices of Manhattan skyline, a feature of our building we thought we would use but rarely ever do.
He nods, curiosity temporarily assuaged, and arches across the counter to kiss my cheek.
I smile at my husband in relief, taking in his mop of curly hair, his dimples, and his pretty green eyes. So freaking sexy, my best friend, Billie, said when I showed her his photo. He looked exactly like his online dating profile, which is probably why I went home with him after our first date, the two of us reduced to sloppy mouths and hands in the back of a cab barreling down Broadway. I later learned that while his picture didn’t lie—not like a dozen other men before him, all of whom were at least twenty pounds heavier than advertised—his life story did. Yes, he went to Florida State, but he never graduated, instead dropping out in his third year to work on the same novel he has yet to complete a chapter of. Nowhere in his bio did it say he was a bartender, the only consistent job he has ever had.
But I overlooked that because he treats me well, because people are drawn to him, because I was drawn to him, to his steady warmth and self-assuredness. He didn’t know the person I was in college but loved the new embodiment of me so simply that I figured I couldn’t be as horrible as everyone thought. I never imagined I would end up with someone five years younger, but being older has had its benefits. Our age gap is small enough that we look good together but big enough that his instincts are softer, more malleable. When I pushed the idea of a proposal because I was creeping into my late twenties, he took the hint and picked out a ring. Not the one I wanted, but it was close enough.
Adrian tries to make conversation as we head up to the roof, but the voice in my head is louder. Hers. We need to talk about what we did that night.
There were two different nights, and I’m not sure which one she means. The one that started everything or the one that ended it. She never wanted to talk about either. Then again, she was the best at breaking her own rules.
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Introduction
Two former best friends return to their college reunion to find that they’re being circled by someone who wants revenge for what they did ten years before—and will stop at nothing to get it—in this shocking psychological thriller about ambition, toxic friendship, and deadly desire.
A lot has changed in the years since Ambrosia Wellington graduated from college, and she’s worked hard to create a new life for herself. But then an invitation to her ten-year reunion arrives in the mail, along with an anonymous note that reads, We need to talk about what we did that night.
It seems that the secrets of Ambrosia’s past—and the people she thought she’d left there—aren’t as buried as she’d believed. Amb can’t stop fixating on what she did or who she did it with: larger-than-life Sloane “Sully” Sullivan, Amb’s former best friend, who could make anyone do anything.
At the reunion, Amb and Sully receive increasingly menacing messages, and it becomes clear that they’re being pursued by someone who wants more than just the truth of what happened that first semester. This person wants revenge for what they did and the damage they caused—the extent of which Amb is only now fully understanding. And it was all because of the game they played to get a boy who belonged to someone else and the girl who paid the price.
Alternating between the reunion and Amb’s freshman year, The Girls Are All So Nice Here is a shocking novel about the brutal things girls will do to get what they think they’re owed, and what happens when the games we play in college become matters of life and death.
Topics & Questions for Discussion (12-15 Discussion Questions)
1. “Together we ruled.” The first line of the novel sets up the theme of an alliance, a partnership. Do you think this is true of the relationship between Amb and Sully? At what points does this feel accurate and at what points does it feel less true?
2. The novel is told in alternating storylines, fluctuating between the characters’ first year of college and their school reunion ten years after graduating. How did this changing timeline affect your perceptions of Amb and Sully? How did this structure build suspense?
3. Amb describes how she and her best friend from home, Billie, had a “meager defense against the mean girls” at their school, how they “studied them, then peeled them like overripe fruit in marathon gossip sessions to lessen the sting of not being invited to their parties.” How does Amb’s experience with “mean girls” before college affect her attitude toward making new friends? Have you had any experiences with cliques or gossiping among peers?
4. After meeting Flora, Amb thinks to herself, “being nice was as naïve as being trustworthy, which had gotten me nowhere. Flora must have known the power she was giving people to hurt her. There was a danger in being too soft in a world that required a protective coating.” Consider how “niceness” is portrayed in the novel. Is being nice a dangerous quality? What does it mean to be a “nice girl”?
5. Reunions–family, school or otherwise–can be a nostalgic time to reconnect but can also resurface memories or past selves. Discuss reunions you’ve attended and what your favorite and least favorite parts of the experience were.
6. “People thought girls’ bodies were our deadliest weapons. They had no idea about the mountains our imaginations could move.” (112) Later, words are described as the weapon that killed Flora. What other “weapons” are there in the novel and who wields them against whom, and why?
7. The friendships detailed throughout the novel are predominantly between women. How would the story have changed if the characters had platonic male relationships? How do the gender differences among your friends shape your friendships?
8. On first meeting Flora, Amb is “prickled” by how Flora “knew how to be herself–it seemed like everyone did. I only knew how to imitate other people.” Later, Sully criticizes nice girls, saying, “it’s all a performance . . . they act sweet, then talk behind your back.” What is the significance of imitation and acting for Amb? Who else in the novel is performing, on or offstage? Have you ever found yourself imitating others or performing for friends?
9. Kevin is characterized as the novel’s villain; is this a fair assessment? Discuss why or why not. Who do you think is the villain?
10. For many, freshman year is the first time young people experience living away from family expectations and setting your own rules. Did you experience this, either in a college setting or moving away from home? How did it feel to be on your own?
11. The descriptions of intimate exchanges between male and female students in the novel are rarely affectionate, and some are even animalistic: Amb characterizes sleeping with a stranger as “a ritual necessary to purge the memory of Matt’s betrayal,” while, later, boys are described as “[surrounding] us, in packs, former sports kings with predatory eyes.” In daring Amb to seduce another student, Sully says she wants to “prove he’s the same animal as the rest of them,” after which Amb describes her actions as “the slaughter.” How does this language affect your perception of their romantic and sexual interplay? For the women in the novel, is this approach empowering or limiting?
12. “It would be years before I realized that girls weren’t supposed to own their ambition, just lease it from time to time when it didn’t offend anyone else.” Do you believe this statement is true? What are the characters ambitious for, and is there a difference between ambition and competition?
13. Consider this statement from Amb: “That’s what it came down to. Three girls, each with something another wanted. I was the snake that swallowed Flora, and Sully unhinged her jaw to swallow me. Maybe everything would have ended differently if we had talked, but we didn’t exist in a world where our envy was allowed to have a voice.” Do you think talking would have saved Flora, Amb, and Sully from one another? Could anything have saved them?
14. Amb is drawn to Sully talking about “guys like they were toys” while noting “her favorite playthings were the girls.” Was Sully ever Amb’s friend, or do you think she was playing Amb all along? How would the novel have changed if it were told from Sully’s point of view? Could the same statement be said of Amb’s approach to relationships?
15. Amb and Sully end the novel in drastically different situations. Do you believe they deserved their conclusions?
Enhance Your Book Club (3-5 Enhance Your Book Club Suggestions)
1. Ask if anyone in your reading group has had experience with calligraphy. Watch a tutorial video or explore DIY instructions for beginner calligraphy and customize handwritten invitations for your gathering, or send handwritten letters to members of your reading group. (Best to leave any threatening tones to the pages of the novel, though!)
2. Look up a campus map of Wesleyan University and trace the characters’ most visited locales.
3. Discuss how Flora’s emotional state deteriorated and how to look for signs of depression and emotional instability; how can you talk to your friends if you’re worried something is wrong? Explore the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services website for Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) and check out this guide for starting conversations about mental health: https://www.samhsa.gov/sites/default/files/tay-conversation-starters.pdf
4. Check out Project Gutenberg online and read some of John Donne’s poetry. Discuss whether anyone in your group has studied John Donne previously, or how the poems speak to you.
5. Give yourself a black and cardinal manicure—Wesleyan school colors!
A Conversation with Laurie Elizabeth Flynn
Q: Congratulations on publishing The Girls Are All So Nice Here! Could you describe the inspiration for the plot and characters? Did you know any real-life girls like Amb and Sully?
A: Thank you! I’m very drawn to dynamics between female friend groups and the ways in which girls can scratch each other’s darkest impulses, and I was inspired by the societal tendency to label girls as nice or mean. I wanted to write a story from the perspective of the bully, rather than the bullied, and to put readers inside the head of a girl under the influence of a dangerously charismatic friend. I haven’t known anyone as extreme as Sully, but I’ve definitely known people like her, ones who are harsh and magnetic in equal measure. Girls like Amb are even more prevalent—in search of validation and acceptance, and seeking approval from the wrong people, sometimes replicating the cruelty of a leader to avoid being cast out themselves. I think most of us have been in, or on the fringe, of situations like this, with insecurity as a driving force.
Q: The novel is set at Wesleyan University, and the campus environment sets the stage for dramatic events. Did you attend Wesleyan yourself? What inspired the college reunion storyline?
A: I didn’t attend Wesleyan myself, but I knew I wanted to set this novel on a campus that had a liberal arts vibe and also felt tight knit. The college I went to was larger and more anonymous, and what I wanted for The Girls Are All So Nice Here was a more insular setting where rumors traveled fast and friend groups could easily overlap. I thought that a reunion would provide such an interesting framework, as the setting and cast of characters would remain largely the same, and readers would get to see exactly how the characters have changed since their college days—and how they’ve stayed the same. I wanted to play with the idea of being summoned back to campus for a reason, and a threat too dangerous to ignore.
Q: Although you’ve previously published for a YA audience (readers, go check out Firsts, Last Girl Lied To, and All Eyes on Her!), The Girls Are All So Nice Here is your first novel written for adults. What was it like writing for an older audience?
A: Writing for an adult audience meant there was much more room for retrospection, and the ability to see a character in two stages of her life: as an eighteen-year-old college freshman, and again as a married woman in her early thirties with a career. My YA novels are very immediate in tone, with characters in the moment, rarely looking back on things they’ve done or the consequences of their actions. In The Girls Are All So Nice Here, I loved being able to dive deep into themes that apply to both teenage girls and women at different stages of their lives: jealousy, ambition, obsession, and desire.
Q: You worked as a model before becoming a novelist; can you tell us what the transition was like to change careers? Does your modeling experience have an impact on your writing today?
A: My modeling experience seeps into my writing in myriad ways. Funnily enough, the transition from modeling to the life of an aspiring novelist helped steel me toward the rejection that happens in publishing. Modeling helped me develop a thick skin and not take rejection too personally. Thematically, modeling plays into my work because it’s an industry wherein intense, immediate friendships are formed, but at the same time, you’re often competing for jobs against those same friends. Competition between girls and women, and how society exacerbates it, is a main element in The Girls Are All So Nice Here, and something I’m very keen to explore.
Q: The title is a perfect balance of sweet and menacing, how did you land on it?
A: When I drafted this book, it had no title. Only in the weeks before querying it did I finally give it a name, and then it clicked with total certainty. The title is a line drawn from the novel—Ambrosia recalls writing letters to her grandmother and lying about her college experience, citing that “the girls are all so nice here.” I love how ominous it is in the context of the book, and the many ways in which it can be read.
Q: Many early readers have commented on how finishing the novel has them reflecting on their own adolescent–and sometimes manipulative–friendships. Why did you want to write about toxic relationships, especially intense friendships between women?
A: I’m absolutely fascinated by female friendship. In these friend groups, there’s a dynamic I find really interesting, where bad behavior is legitimized if more than one person is partaking in it: the idea that if your best friend does something, it must be okay for you to do it too. It’s this intimate, baked-in peer pressure that’s quite powerful. I think this happens less with men because they tend to be celebrated for the very things women are condemned for, and wild antics are met with a high-five instead of a scolding. Men don’t look to each other to validate their actions because we live in a world where society already expects that kind of behavior from them.
A facet of toxic friendship that I’m drawn to is that only in hindsight do we often realize it was toxic or one-sided. At the time, poor treatment can be too easily validated. At eighteen, Ambrosia is so caught up in Sully’s thrall that she can’t separate herself from it. Only years later can she see the friendship for what it was.
Q: Alternating the story between past and present offered readers a chance to meet characters at different stages in their lives. Was it difficult to write characters at two different ages? How did they change during the decade after graduation?
A: I loved the challenge of writing the same characters at two different life stages. I wanted to focus not only on how they changed—with spouses and careers—but how much they stayed the same, and how being back on campus brought out the emotions they’d felt as students during their school days: the insecurity, uncertainty, and in Ambrosia’s case, the fear. Ambrosia’s post-college life, on the surface, appears happy: she has a devoted husband and good job and nice apartment, but she’s still dissatisfied, having failed to achieve the dreams she set for herself when she came to Wesleyan. And as much as she tries to justify what happened in the past, she’s still haunted by it, and a part of her is still terrified by the prospect of being caught. Reunions bring reflection and a chance to compare where you are compared to how you thought your life would look. There’s also a component of pressure to appear successful and accomplished in front of former friends (and enemies . . .).
Q: The ending is brilliant and shocking—did you always know where these characters would end up?
A: I don’t plot my books in advance, so I didn’t initially know how this story would end. I knew I had to wrap it up in a way that was fitting to these characters and what they had gone through. I wrote the last quarter of the book in a heady rush, and the ending came to me as I was writing it. It felt like the only right way to end the story. And the bones of it have not changed since that first draft.
Q: Retribution and reward (or people getting what they deserve) is a theme throughout the novel. How did you decide to weave this into the characters’ motivations?
A: I think retribution is such a strong motivator, and it worked well here—both the fear of retribution, for Ambrosia, and the act of revenge itself, building for so long without her knowledge. The events of the past have a long tail, and I was interested in this dynamic—that past can too easily become present.
Q: What do you like to read yourself?
A: I love anything that fuses psychological suspense with sharp, insightful social commentary on women’s experiences. Some of my all-time favorites are Gone Girl by Gillian Flynn, Luckiest Girl Alive by Jessica Knoll, Whisper Network by Chandler Baker, and Such A Fun Age by Kiley Reid.
Q: Is there anything else you hope readers will take away from The Girls Are All So Nice Here?
A: More than anything, I hope readers come away with a realization that girls don’t fit neatly into the “nice” and “mean” labels that society likes to use. Most of us are a mixture of both, and while it’s easy to judge and condemn behavior, there are so many factors to be considered, especially given the pressures, both external and internal, on girls and women.
Product Details
- Publisher: Simon & Schuster (March 9, 2021)
- Length: 320 pages
- ISBN13: 9781982144623
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Raves and Reviews
A USA Today Best Book of 2021
"The Girls Are All So Nice Here" kept me up all night — literally. I tore through the book in less than 24 hours, forcing my eyes to stay open as if the remaining pages wouldn't be there in the morning."—USA Today
"A college reunion. A toxic friend group. Revenge. All the makings of a page-turner are here in Flynn’s book." —Entertainment Weekly
"This chilling and twisty thriller centers on two former best friends who return to their alma mater for a college reunion. Once there, they quickly realize someone is targeting them for revenge for what they did ten years ago. Devastatingly dark and thrumming with tension, The Girls Are all So Nice Here offers a juicy, unflinching portrait of the complexities of friendship and social ambition."—Book Riot
"The story takes place in two alternating time periods: the freshman year for the girls of the story, and the ten-year reunion for the same bunch. Somewhere back in the early times but not revealed until much later, terrible things have happened on campus, and somebody’s going to pay a penalty. Many secrets are withheld until late in the story, and while this is a familiar device, Flynn makes it work with special power by piling on the details in numbers and in specificity. Sex, betrayal, scheming — all come into play in dark and heavy loads. Is there someone to root for in all of this? Only at the reader’s peril."—The Toronto Star
"With The Girls Are All So Nice Here, Flynn takes the insecurities that come with being a young woman and sharpens them into a deadly point. I read open-mouthed as Amb navigated the complex social calculus of her worlds right up until that stinging kick of a final chapter left me breathless."—Chandler Baker, New York Times bestselling author of Whisper Network
"Laurie Flynn smartly examines the darker complexities of friendship, ambition, and social dynamics in this propulsive thriller. Full of twists and surprises, THE GIRLS ARE ALL SO NICE HERE reminds us that the past has a long reach, and secrets never stay buried forever. I couldn’t stop reading until the shocking final twist!"—Megan Miranda, bestselling author of The Girl From Widow Hills
"Alternating between Amb’s time at college and the present day, Flynn reveals the darkness girls are capable of, building toward a thrillingly unsettling ending."—Electric Literature
“Dark, twisted, and utterly gripping, THE GIRLS ARE ALL SO NICE explores the unparalleled cruelty of mean girls on a leafy college campus. This propulsive thriller has a killer ending to match its killer title.”—Robyn Harding, bestselling author of The Swap
“THE GIRLS ARE ALL SO NICE HERE is twisted, compelling, and so very dark. This devastating story about the friends we keep—and those we don’t—is surprising in the best possible way. Flynn's first adult fiction book makes me wonder what she'll come up with next.”—Samantha Downing, USA Today bestselling author of My Lovely Wife and He Started It
Juicy, twisty, and relentlessly unsettling, THE GIRLS ARE ALL SO NICE HERE is more than a thriller; it's a masterful portrait of the complexities of female friendships and the raw yearning to fit in. With characters unflinchingly wrought in all their vulnerability and a setting so real, I felt I'd visited the Wesleyan campus myself, this book is a brilliant and wickedly wild ride. I couldn't put it down. —Andrea Bartz, bestselling author of The Lost Night and The Herd
"A sharp, pitch-black thriller that takes the mean-girls trope to another level."--KIRKUS
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